Talk:Runeclub (3.5e Equipment)

Is this really an item?
It's very much like a variant rule: "All rods may be wielded as exotic clubs, and enchanted or made masterwork as such as well." The difference is only 100 gold. --Foxwarrior (talk) 23:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It exotic. But I was thinking adding a few things, like allowing the rod to be discharged on a strike. --Leziad (talk) 23:56, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I thought rods were things like immovable rods and rods of metamagic. If you're unleashing spells, aren't you thinking of a wand or staff?
 * So many different kinds of wizard sticks in this game.
 * But what I was originally getting at, that this is essentially a straight buff to rods (or whatever) still stands. --Foxwarrior (talk) 00:34, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Many rods can have spells on them like a SRD:Rod of Thunder and Lightning. I think making it an item is far more accessible for the average player than making it a variant rule. --Leziad (talk) 00:42, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, an overly precise reading of that Rod of Thunder and Lightning would say that the rod doesn't actually have any spells, it just has effects which precisely replicate spells.
 * Yes, it is far more accessible for the average player than a variant rule, but an item comes with some expectation that its addition does not significantly alter the balance of the game. Were rods too weak to bother getting, Leziad? --Foxwarrior (talk) 00:53, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think a rod on a club is worth arguing. Many rods also double as maces, such as the rod of withering. It just a flavor items with some benefits on the side, nothing more. It useless for the best rods which are the rods of metamagic (well not useless, it still act as a slightly better club). If it a buff it an extremely meager buff, it a club that deal half magic damage and can be made into a rod. It frigging Gish items, give it a rest. --Leziad (talk) 01:11, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * (Edit) Poor wording on my part for the Rod of Lightning and Thunder (and similar rods). The new wording should convey what I was trying to say much better. --Leziad (talk) 01:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Fine, I will give it a rest, but only because my complaint applies to most homebrew almost as well as it applies to this club. Well, it's actually a pretty nice buff when attacks of opportunity and immediate or swift action attacks come into it. --Foxwarrior (talk) 01:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)