Talk:Inescapable Embrace (3.5e Maneuver)

Ratings

 * The argument could be made that freedom of movement is a VH-level defense, and shouldn't be considered when looking at H material. --DanielDraco (talk) 02:41, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of ways for non-caster H characters to get FOM; even excluding it, it still simply provides an admittedly massive bonus to both the most useless skill and one good melee move.Fluffykittens (talk) 04:09, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

...The unspecified act is rape. Now do you see why it's Evil?!? --Luigifan18 (talk) 04:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't see why any ability should be inherently evil because it can be used to do bad things. Since Magic Missiles, Fireballs, and, hey, even swords are used on good people, should they be considered evil? Should rope be considered evil because it could be used in a rape? Heck no. And as DanielDraco mentioned, the addition of mechanics for rape are, well, disturbing indeed. Usually, you don't mention some things. Yeah, Hold Person could allow the caster to cop a feel, but you don't put ideas into the players' heads. You let them decide what to do with the tools at hand.--Quey (talk) 05:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I'll change it. --Luigifan18 (talk) 13:28, 5 November 2012 (UTC)