Talk:Complete Sublime (3.5e Sourcebook)/Sublime Campaigns

Requesting Names/Description of Fluff
I need a good name for the competition that occurs every three or so years between initiators. Anybody have a good idea? --Havvy 18:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Mortal Kombat --TK-Squared 18:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and I'm thinking about the hierarchy for disciplines and disciples. To start with institutions, each discipline has dojos just as each religion has churches.  The most important dojo is known as the Temple, with the most famous temple being the Temple of Nine Swords, or whatever it is called in the first book.  Each dojo has about twenty to thirty students of the disciplines it is of (usually only one, but say 15% have two and 20% have three.) with the majority of the 'masters' of the dojo being level 10.  There are at most three masters per dojo, and the rest are students, with half of them being new initators (level 1 or 2).  Masters have character levels in a sublime class while the rest have an NPC class.  This gives 10 levels for which player characters are stronger than dojos, and can have a strong chance to reorganize the dojo structure, except for the antagonism of temples.  Every temple has an 18th level founder or successor (though a successor can be anywhere between levels 15 and 18, depending on how weakened the temple is through plot).  If a temple does not have a qualified successor, the discipline breaks up and a new founder must recreate the maneuvers...an arduous task.


 * Every three years, masters send their best students to a supposedly friendly competition to see that which has the best students under the master. This occurs far away from the Temple of Nine Swords and more closer to a metropolitan area.  New disciplines attempt to compete, and every once in awhile, one actually gets popular from it.  Those whom are allied to the 'wisdom' (read: hubris and greed) of Reshar see this competition as an affront to the entire idea of the sublime way.  While there are dojos that teach the disciplines of Reshar without teaching the wisdom, these dojos are rare, and in a tough political spot, leading to less initiators of those disciplines compared to others.


 * Speaking of Reshar...Tome of Battle does not state much about him, leaving almost everything to the imagination. I want to set this guy up as a Lawful Neutral, bringing order into fighting while preventing the chaos of ideas that which were not his.  Basically, a really successful non-religious cult.  If you would go back in time, you would find that this guy was spiteful and ready to cut you down in a second if you disagreed with him.


 * These thoughts were made to get the 100 Sublime Adventures created, so any thoughts on them so far? Are the plot hooks interesting to you?  Anything that can be added, removed, changed?  Is the character assassination on Reshar useful?


 * Hilarious suggestion TK, but I'd rather them not think they are acting out a video game in a pen and paper game. --Havvy 18:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * In all seriousness I do have a subplot which is torn right from Mortal Kombat for your use, and it deals with the menos devils I was creating. The effect is that (as yet unnamed) powerful menos archdevil has turned his sights of conquest from Acheron to the material plane, and has gone to invade as he has done with so many demiplanes before.  When he wins he drags portions of the plane down to his plane, enlarging his cubic empire.  This great conquerer does so by making an ancient pact that if the realm's best warriors cannot defeat his champions, he gets to invade.  Being the lawful honorable sort of devil he does stick to the agreement, but of course the realms so far have been too weak to fight him off, and being menos they are supereffective vs the world's casters.


 * But lo! The material plane got word and (somebody NPC) gathers up all the disciplines together to fight it out and figure who is the strongest.  Then they are chosen to face the champion of the menos in battle to determine the fate of the world and stave off the invasion for 100 years.  One day, maybe they will find someone strong enough to go to Acheron and take on the infinite armies of the BBEG himself, but until then it's a delay tactic. -- Eiji-kun 05:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)


 * MisterSinister suggests the name "Contest of Mastery". This would be best for the 5-year competitions.  Every 100 years though, we have Eiji's plot above occur...and that can have the name of "Struggle of Material Mastery".  Thoughts Foxwarrior and Eiji-kun? --Havvy 04:57, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Struggle of Material Mastery? Hmmm.... for some reason, something doesn't sound right about it when it rolls off the tongue, though it has the right idea.  Lemme think... -- Eiji-kun 10:42, 6 May 2011 (UTC)