Talk:Greater Invulnerable Shield (3.5e Spell)

Ratings

 * I find it entirely acceptable to force the melee fighter to pull out a large cloth instead of solving yet another problem with stabs in a VH game. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:44, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Then this dislike unfortunately will stay. In a game where only a very few classes get significant horizontal growth, I do not find the threat of complete impotence for any vertical path acceptable, no matter the balance point. The melee fighter must be able to solve all problems with stabs, because stabs are more or less all he has. --DanielDraco (talk) 00:50, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Humanoid Fighters, at least, can in fact get hold of large cloths. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you're talking about with the large cloths, but I won't ask; the point stands regardless of the specific example. --DanielDraco (talk) 03:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's ended by blocking line of sight or effect to it. Thus, a large cloth can serve as a counter to this spell. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:25, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I could point out why that isn't a problem, but I think the more important rebuttal here is to ask why the hell a fighter would be carrying around a large cloth, or an umbrella, or anything of the sort. It's like throwing an enemy at them who is completely invulnerable to everything but grape Jell-O – yes technically you can say "Oh well you could easily have beaten them if you had just brought along a tub of grape Jell-O," but that does not make the expectation anything resembling reasonable. --DanielDraco (talk) 12:38, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

If you come within 10 feet of the item, the spell ends. If you sleep, you'd better learn to sleep with your eyes open, or the spell will end. A Spellcraft check can identify which item is the object. --Foxwarrior 17:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Wait, I thought it said you had to keep it within 10 ft of you. Actually, that might be worse... I make the object the sun.  It doesn't have hardness, I see it for 12 hours out of the day, and I'll never be within 10 feet of it.  And no one can break it.  In the day run around and headbutt the Lady of Pain, at night or on overcast days retreat to my fortress of solitude and wait 12 hours. -- Eiji-kun 21:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * And then someone defeats you with an umbrella. --Foxwarrior 21:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)