Talk:Survivor (3.5e Prestige Class)

Redid the Savage Species class
One of the only 2 WotC classes with NO BAB. Quite odd to balance. -- Eiji-kun 04:49, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't have access to Savage Species, what were the changes to this class over the original version, and also what other class had no BAB? The Dire Reverend 04:48, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The answer to your second question is "War Hulk". --65.92.147.104 13:42, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I would say that the War Hulk only got away with it because it gave +2 Strength at every class level. This class doesn't get that, and if you subscribe to the notion that the best defense is a good offense then it is sorely lacking. - TG Cid 14:21, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure the Survivor explicitly doesn't subscribe to that notion. It's not like having 0 BAB really matters for a character who doesn't make attack rolls, anyways. I wonder what sort of build would use this class... --Foxwarrior 20:11, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but "not dying" doesn't sound like a way to be useful in combat when you can't do anything else useful. Whatever other class you are, you have to give up 5 levels of that for this to get all of that survivability. Rarely seems like it would be worth it to me, unless your base class just sucks ass (in which case you've got bigger problems). - TG Cid 20:29, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm actually in agreement, and this was the originals major failing. It just wasn't worth the lost.  In order to make it worth it, it should be giving some serious defensive benefits (which hopefully I succeeded in).  Even so, it's still somewhat of a niche class.  The best examples are a full BABer who needs the defense for some reason and can aford the drop to medium BAB, or someone who doesn't use BAB such as a Dragonfire Adept.  -- Eiji-kun 08:18, 30 April 2012 (UTC)