Talk:Judge of Existence (3.5e Class)/Magic Variant/Judge Spell List

Offensive Spells
Thought I should start a list of spells that need to be removed or raised in level. So as to lower this classes balance point. But since we are on this track, this list might also be an opportunity to denote what spells do not fit with the flavor. --Franken Kesey (talk) 18:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I certainly don't want to go through your list if I can avoid it. You should certainly take out any Spells_that_Fvcking_Kill_People_(3.5e_Guide) in there, to start.
 * And since the Judge of Existence seems to be a "50 year old particle physics" sort of class, my impression is that the things which don't fit with the flavor, such that it is, are those which disobey conservation of mass or the unyielding progress of entropy, or do quantum nonsense like teleportation. --Foxwarrior (talk) 07:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Grease is the only one that requires some debate. Entangle, Jelly Floor, Soften Earth and Stone (and most Transmute x to y), Water Walk, and Wind Walk all change the ground floor (or how it is stepped on with the Walks). And I am a bit confused as to how grease is so potent as to remove people from play any more than the above. --Franken Kesey (talk) 18:16, 13 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably because Frank didn't bother with Druid spells or Homebrew spells in the case of Entangle, Jelly Floor, and Soften Earth and Stone (you should probably take those out too). Buffing your own movement is generally regarded as less amazing than trapping your enemies in a pit of despair. --Foxwarrior (talk) 18:46, 13 October 2012 (UTC)