Talk:Dispersion (3.5e Feat)

Questions
How is this a Very High feat? What the heck is True Damage? Also, again, the wording is very strange on this and it reads as if something is missing. Additionally, imagine this scenario that's totally possible with this feat:

A rather drunk and stout dwarf named Smashdor gets in a head-butt contest with his buddy Grumblin the half-orc who happens to have this feat and lots of damage reduction. Smashdor head-butts his buddy with a mighty power attack critical hit whatever. Nearby, a flask of acid breaks in a guy's pocket.

How? Why? Grumblin! Smashdor! --Ganteka Future (talk) 17:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


 * In LoL, at least, true damage is unmitigated by armor, magic resistance, or any kind of damage reduction. --Ghostwheel (talk) 18:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


 * it is very high, because it FIRST requires you to have damage reduction... Ghostwheel had the closest guess of what the current 'true' damage was going for. sorry about the strange wording. the potential of a breaking flask of acid IS possible. at least at the moment... how does a dwarf or half-orc have more than 10/? damage reduction while in a headbutting contest... if there's not more than 10 damage being reduced this does absolutely nothing.


 * your right i need to find a different KIND of damage, any suggestions? Piercing, bludgeoning, slashing, the various types i could think of right now wouldn't fit into place. and the few that would are effected by other damage reductions which would create a chain which is not what the ability is ment for. the only 2 i can think of right now are Vile and Exalted, which ignore damage reduction, but add in a whole set of new problems... Snafusam (talk)


 * (Darn Edit Conflicts) Alright, I brought up the features in the example for several reasons. I'll make a list for readability purposes:
 * 1. A mundane melee attack can cause an effect at range.
 * 2. This effect can be used to target attended objects without a save.
 * 3. Since it can target anything, neither of them even had to be aware (as worded) that the flask of acid was even there, or was possibly locked within 3 magical chests.
 * As for "true damage", just go with untyped damage, which bypasses everything being just straight damage. You could have the damage be of the same type if it's more like a deflection (getting into flavor reasons) if this is meant to be a mundane ability.
 * Having X Balance Range as a prerequisite doesn't make the article itself also X Balance Range, if that's what you mean by "it's very high, because it FIRST requires you to have damage reduction". Unless you're really supposed to be able to break objects on nearby targets, this really looks to me like a Low Balance Range feat. Maybe you're confused on those terms here at the wiki. Check out: Dungeons and Dragons Wiki:Article Balance if you need to. Cranking it up to 1/2 the damage reduced from your damage reduction or equal to the damage reduced from your damage reduction would be a boost (the later even allowing you to avoid much math, making the game go a bit quicker).
 * The 10 foot flat distance should probably also be amended. You could have it be "within reach" so that characters with reach can take advantage of that (something useful for a lot of bruiser characters who might be interested in this feat).
 * As for your "how does a dwarf or half-orc have more than 10/? damage reduction while in a headbutting contest" question, that's irrelevant. It really doesn't matter at all for the example. Also, I kinda figured that "...lots of damage reduction." in the example was enough to cover the 10 point minimum because of the whole rounding-down thing DnD does. I'm honestly more surprised that a dwarf and a half-orc were buddies. Badum tsch!
 * Take a look back and figure out what you want to do with this feat. That's all I've got for now. --Ganteka Future (talk) 21:23, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

wow, brilliant and perfectly fitting for what it was intended as :D thank you! and thank you for the link to the article balance i had a very incorrect interpretation of what it was. Snafusam (talk)

Absent Text?
"how does a dwarf or half-orc have more than 10/? damage reduction while in a headbutting contest... if there's not more than 10 damage being reduced this does absolutely nothing." (Snafusam)
 * The text of the feat doesn't specify a minimum DR requirement either currently or in any previous versions. Is it meant to?  --Maninorange (talk) 06:21, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

fact said, no. there wasn't ment to be a minimum or maximum. if a player manages to find a method for maxing damage reduction it would be an amazing feat on it's own. if it is achieved and becomes a problem I advise making it 1/2 of DR 20 (per times this feat is taken), however you might want to double-check the methods used for gaining that much damage reduction. Snafusam (talk)