Talk:Rocks Fall (3.5e Spell)

Should the material component link to the artifact known as a character sheet? --Havvy 15:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol no, in this case you can just use any mundane character sheet. -- Eiji-kun 23:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

School
Shouldn't this be either Conjuration (Creation) due to making rocks, or possibly Transmutation due to the whole "curse" thing? I don't see how Evocation fits. --DanielDraco 15:32, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Because it deals buckets of damage probably. Conjuration and Transmutation trample on the direct damage territory enough already. --Aarnott 17:14, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * But spell school is based on categorizing effects by type, not evenly distributing them. Evocation is spells that deal with energy. Rocks really aren't energy. --DanielDraco 22:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Kinetic energy of rocks falling? :P --Aarnott 22:47, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I keep going back and forth. It probably IS conjuration, but the curse aspect actually made me think Evocation, in the same sense that Contingency is evocation: ie, the evocation part is the curse, which then proceeds to cast "summon rock" with its energy.  Perhaps a little weak.  For now I continue to be wishy washy, proceed with your debate. -- Eiji-kun 22:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Contingency is evocation because it doesn't have an effect on the target in and of itself -- it deals with magical energies. And I don't see the spell creating or manipulating any kinetic energy. It creates rocks (which really can't be ignored, can it? It's the basic thing the spell does) and then gravity causes the kinetic energy. Ultimately, the only thing the spell does is create rocks over time. --DanielDraco 07:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies
Cast this on a creature that cannot die (like the Tarrasque or a Troll), and eventually the universe will be crushed. --Foxwarrior (talk) 00:32, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Meh, even the Tarrasque's gonna be unable to get itself out from under a rock if the rock is big enough. --Luigifan18 (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * If the Tarrasque can't get itself out from under the rock, how are you going reach it to cast remove curse before the planet is destroyed? --Foxwarrior (talk) 00:36, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Use metamagic to cast the spell through the rock, without having to touch the Tarrasque? (And the Tarrasque's a poor example, you probably wouldn't even be able to place the curse on it.) --Luigifan18 (talk) 01:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * ...Come to think of it, there's nothing in the spell description that says it ends with the target's death... --Luigifan18 (talk) 01:13, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It affects a creature, not an object. When someone dies, they become an object.  It may be questionable about what may happen in the situation that they die then are brought back to life or turned into an undead/construct/outsider/ooze/whatever.  --Undead_Knave (talk) 04:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * But we're talking about creatures that don't die due to having regeneration. --Luigifan18 (talk) 15:21, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, actually, Undead_Knave was talking about your statement "there's nothing in the spell description that says it ends with the target's death", so we were briefly talking about creatures that die. --Foxwarrior (talk) 16:54, 31 August 2013 (UTC)