Talk:Denizen of Valiancy (3.5e Race)

Ratings
A Clarification/Expansion: Alright, just to be clear here since a few of my ratings for all the denizen races got a bit scattered. Reading through them really did a number on me. This comment is here since I'm not going to put it on all the articles, because whatever this is the last one alphabetically. So, I rated (oppose) on all the denizen races since I don't think that they're up to the quality standards for the site on either a mechanics or flavor standpoint. That said, I actually like races that take an approach to design using HD over LA, its just that everything else about these races is boring and lackluster. They aren't designed cohesively with their flavor and don't back up their main bonus with anything. In many cases, you'll be stuck doing nothing. As NPCs, they'd just feel like a cheat that's difficult to describe given what we know about them in the flavor text. Everything about these races just feels imprecise and unfocused. As an experiment in design, they need to be taken back to the planning stages. That's it. --Ganteka Future (talk) 07:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Unassociated Abilities
Why does the race with a Charisma penalty get a bonus to Diplomacy, and the race with a bonus to Charisma get an ability that prevents them from talking? --YouLostMe (talk) 17:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)