Talk:True Archer (3.5e Class)

Why wouldn't anybody dip in this in a fighter level game? Two bonus feats at level 1 is great for any fighter. Just dipping in at level one is great! Maybe this bonus feat could be given later? Dipping is a problem in this class.--75.40.72.247 02:01, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * One of the feat is static (Rapid Shot or Darkstalker) and not really good for any other fighter-level martial classes. The fighter is already way too specialized and need all his feats, the rogue would lower his sneak attack and others have no reasons to take this. The two feats are nice, but I wouldn't call that a problem at all, you can't really break the game with it. I could see a martial rogue take a dip in the class, but that not a problem as the class still stand on it own (in a fighter level game anyway). --Leziad 02:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * "Bonus Feats: At 1st level and every 2 levels thereafter, a true archer can choose a bonus feat. This feat may be selected from the list of fighter bonus feats. In addition, true archer levels count as fighter levels for the purpose of feat pre-requisites, and stack with actual fighter levels. The typical true archer invests in fighter bonus feats related to his style of archery.
 * Archery Style (Ex): At 1st level an true archer chooses one of two styles of archery, the Volley True Archer who fights through sheer number of arrows rather than pure damage, or the Sniper True Archer who fights through the single, strong, devastating shot, usually under safety of cover. Once this choice is made, it effects the progression of all further archery style benefits.
 * At 1st level the Volley True Archer gains the Rapid Shot feat, even if he does not qualify for it. The Sniper True Archer instead gains Darkstalker feat from Lords of Madness (Pg. 179), enabling him to hide from creature's alternate senses."


 * This is the ability gained at first level: the fighter just gains the bonus feat.  By taking this then taking fighter,  you get rapid fire and your normal bonus feat.  AND a bonus to your will and reflex (you need this).  All you lose is that fortitude bonus.Its just a great dip --75.40.72.247 12:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Being a great dip is hardly a problem, and it only apply to fighter archer which are very rare. --Leziad 12:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't forget the d6 HD for the class. So, for first level, you might want to snag this instead of fighter to get the first level skill points (for all the advantage you'll need) instead of fighter for the HP. Additionally, while the Reflex and Will save bonuses are nice, any multiclassing is gonna net save boons at first level. With the saves being all non-associated (that is, if the character is being built to be a ranged character, he's gonna be getting less out of that Fortitude save, and if he's good at his job, he'll likely be avoiding a lot of Reflex saves as well. With specialization being important, and with the class designed toward that goal, it would probably be best just to take these archer levels instead of fighter levels, eliminating the dip altogether. So, I kinda lost my train of thought here on where I was going, but it looks like the problem now with dipping into this class with a fighter is that you'd be best off just not being a fighter at all. Fighter would net you some proficiencies, if you really need them I guess. If there are any other fighter-level classes that need to be brought up, please someone do so for further discussion. --Ganteka Future 16:52, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Does the weapon have to be a bow?
Could it instead be a crossbow, or even a firearm? The Dire Reverend 05:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Certainly. -- Eiji-kun 05:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Derivative
CrossyCross made a derivative over at the GiantITP forums. --Havvy 13:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)