Talk:Necessary Evil (3.5e Feat)

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Opinions?The Dire Reverend 06:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks Monk-level. The only reason I can think of offhand for taking it is out of fear of the party Paladin. --Foxwarrior 07:11, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Unknown/non-crunch effect on the game = Unquantifiable (at least most of the time). Look up memories of death. --Leziad 07:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, but Memories of Death is a useful feat if you like dying a lot. This feat is a much weaker unquantifiable. --Foxwarrior 07:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The only way I can see this being abused is if a person takes this feat, and advances in an evil and a good class simultaneously.The Dire Reverend 07:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You can't be weaker than Unquantifiable.. it unquantifiable, there is no stronger or weaker... also I can see a LOT of abuse with this feat. Ur-Priest/Good PrC Unholy combo. --Leziad 07:59, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * In fact, I'm not sure this feat is necessary in the first place... An Always Evil creature CAN change alignment, as seen on the Wizard website, in Savage Species and in the Book of Vile Darkness. The Book of Exalted Deeds say exactly the opposite, but Book of Vile Darkness is just better.--74.210.182.77 22:50, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Wait... what have you been smoking? The BoED explicitly says that evil creatures can be redeemed. Heck, it even has an example of one of the traditionally-evilest creatures (a mind flayer) becoming good, so unless you can cite a source, I think you're speaking out the ass as far as saying that the BoED saying that all Always Evil creatures are always evil. --Ghostwheel 22:59, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I made a mistake, I thought the redemption rule didn't apply to Always Evil creatures (It does, but with a bonus to the save). Mind flayers are generally evil so that's not the point. It still doesn't work with characters with the evil subtype, such as demons and devils. But the way to become good is just harder, not impossible, as seen with a certain succubus paladin. So I continue to wonder about the necessity of the feat.--Idlem 02:35, 30 May 2012 (UTC) (I'm 74.210.182.77)