Talk:Shadowdancer, Clockwerks Variant (3.5e Prestige Class)

Winter Cleaning
You're right, this is too similar to the original to keep around. So I think there are two good options: There are certainly other things we could do, but these are the two that I can think of that seem reasonable. Thoughts? - Tarkisflux Talk 16:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Let Clockwerks port his fluff into the original (and undo the original revert). I'm completely fine with this since the edit struck me as a basically constructive edit, as it was expanding the fluff on the page while retaining all of the mechanical bits. That sort of edit was not explicitly denied by Surgo's editing status, and probably fine with him. In short, I didn't see anything wrong with the original edit and wasn't happy with the revert in the first place, but didn't feel like making an issue out of it. I think this is the better option, but we could also...
 * 2) Start adoption proceedings for the original, and transfer it to Clockwerks if there aren't serious objections. Surgo basically isn't around anymore, and if he doesn't object to someone wanting to take over his work (and basically fluff it up) I don't see any reason to not let it happen.


 * I only reverted the fluff changes because there was no request for them. Without knowing Surgo's attitude towards it, I figured it was best to be author-centric. That said, I would probably be OK with the changes although I think it's arguable to say that it was complete as written and not requiring adoption or anything similar. It's simple, yeah, but that's pretty characteristic of Tome stuff and not necessarily incomplete. - TG Cid 16:19, 28 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not suggesting that it wasn't complete already, but being complete doesn't mean no further changes are allowed. We don't only allow changes on incomplete stuff after all. Tiny fluff is fine, but that doesn't mean more fluff isn't allowed or is somehow bad if it isn't from the original author. I don't think the fluff changes dilutes his authorship much either; if they were significant enough to warrant a name change there wouldn't be a discussion about the page being too similar. The key points for me are that Surgo's editing restriction in the author block does not preclude these sorts of edits, and it's not a significant enough edit to change authorship over. I think it safe to say that he would have been clear if he had wanted to preclude fluff changes, it's not like he didn't know what he was doing. - Tarkisflux Talk 20:44, 28 June 2011 (UTC)