Talk:Condemned by Society (3.5e Maneuver)

Yeah... A permanent curse - especially of a decent power, not to mention from a martial maneuver - is kind of hard to swallow for me at level 5... -HarrowedMind (talk) 04:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Bestow Curse comes into effect at this level. Where this exactly as Bestow Curse I would have staggered it by a level or two, but its not quite.  It's locked into one specific curse (you can hit them easier, duplicating a maneuver you had since level 1 but this time without the action cost except the one cost here), makes it dependent on a save (previous incarnation wasn't), and on Charisma, which in most melee builds will be a secondary stat at best.  So I figured it should be legit.  The counters to it are possible at 5th. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 08:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)