Talk:Beedrill (3.5e Monster)

shouoldln't this have the vermin type? or "augmented vermin" subtype, since its still a bug and that lets it be target of bug spells like giant vermin. --NameViolation 05:15, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * You could make a reasonable Beedrill entry which was Vermin type. This one isn't currently. Is there some particular property of it being "Vermin" you have in mind? Keeping in mind that giant vermin is actually not a valid spell on anything except a centipede, spider, or scorpion. --Quantumboost 05:47, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well weedle and kakuna are vermin, so i figure this should be too. but rather than recalculate a bunch of numbers and stuff, i figure add the augmented vermin subtype. Shows evolution, and adds a slight bit of fluff with the evolution. It technically wouldn't do much, but if someone has "rebuke vermin" for example, i think it should affect beedrils. OR classes that handle vermin should be able to handle one. same with venomoth and butterfree. you have the pre-evolved form and then it evolves and its type changes and you cant handle one anymore. --NameViolation 06:00, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, in light of the above and some comments by the author in more... recent... works, I'm more comfortable with doing some modification as far as Vermin and Bug-types go. Since Kakuna weren't created in the elder days by mind-devouring horrors from the stars.
 * At least, they *probably* weren't. --Quantumboost 22:09, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Chance to poison on Twin Needle? Fury attack? I always saw these as staples of Beedril. MagicTomato 11:02, April 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * When Beedrill uses Twineedle, it attacks with both of its needles once. When it attacks with its Needle natural weapon (whether Twineedling or not) and hits, the target is subject to 1d4-1 damage and poison. The chance of poison on Twineedle is a direct consequence of how D&D's natural weapon and poison rules work.
 * As for Fury Attack, Beedrill has three natural weapon attacks and can be hasted at will for a total of four attacks on a full attack action. Is that... not sufficient for some reason? --Quantumboost 15:16, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed that later. Note to self: Don't edit anything at 6AM. Sorry for the inconvenience... 97.116.95.230 20:12, April 12, 2010 (UTC)