Talk:Obscured Existence (3.5e Martial Discipline)

Save
What's with the funky save? Besides being confusing, it looks like at 20th your save is 15 + Cha, which seems low. I don't think your weird save works, why not 10 + 1/2 HD + Cha? -- Eiji-kun 14:19, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It pretty much is that actually. The shadow pact warlock gets full class level -> initiator level progression, so his saves would be functionally 10 + HD/2 + Cha. Other ToB initiators would be the same. - Tarkisflux Talk 18:52, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * But normally you're sporting 10 + 10 + Cha at 20th. -- Eiji-kun 23:38, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * And you are here too... 10 + (20th level Initiator / 2) + Cha = 10 + 10 + Cha. I'm not sure what you're looking at that says otherwise. - Tarkisflux Talk 00:10, 18 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh wait, I see what you did thar...


 * Dang, that's confusing to read. Can't we reformat it to say 10 + 1/2 initiator level + Cha like everything else? -- Eiji-kun 00:18, 18 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes. Though Havvy can change it back if he objects of course. - Tarkisflux Talk 00:23, 18 January 2012 (UTC)