User talk:Luigifan18/Restore Vestige (3.5e Alternate Class Feature)

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Ganteka Future opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.

It's kind of amazing how toxic this is to a campaign setting/world building/verisimilitude/suspension of disbelief. This one ability can just really screw up everything in a game. The funniest part of all this as an alternate class feature was that the community weighed in that it was bad and should be dropped and the solution was to keep it as an option. You might be able to get away with something like this as an Campaign Important Artifact/McGuffin kind of thing so that the only way it gets into a game is through the DM purposely adding it. That said, having an artifact that straight grants this ability still doesn't work, because it is written terribly, because it is a huge mess, is far too long, assumes to know the feelings of every character of a type, assumes to know the feelings/motivations of every deity... Okay, look, everyone reading this: This ability is terrible. It should not be used in any form. There's a core concept here that could be salvaged, but as is, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not. Just stay away. This is "rocks fall and the DM now has to carry them because you made it his job with this ability. Did I mention the rocks are a metaphor for an unnecessary amount of crushing workload? Because they are."

	Undead Knave opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
	Harmful to every aspect of the game means harmful to every aspect of the game. Stop writing things so unnecessarily long and redundantly means stop writing things so unnecessarily long and redundantly.

Leziad opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.

If there was an ability that didn't needed to exist it this one. Alright let me put it this way, if I had a class, that get an ability at level 40. This ability is "Destroy the campaign setting." Then no amount of 'balancing' or making the ability unappealing with drawbacks will make it a good idea. Even if I made it that it only 10% likely to succeed, that all your spell have spell failure 50% when you get it or that whenever you attempt to use it your must give the GM 20$. It just bad for the game. This ability is the same, on a lesser scale. It also incredibly lorebreaking and overall hurt the mystique behind vestiges. Vestiges were always intended as being kind of a joke, being NPCs and creature lost between editions but the concept was interesting. Third, most vestige can't be stated in any sane manners. Also this article imply the DM could just rock fall on the PC for using his class feature, that fucked up.