View source for Talk:Brutality (3.5e Sphere)

== Ratings ==
{{Rating |rater=MisterSinister
|rating=oppose
|reason=Thirding Surgo - and the fact that some of the spells aren't at very good levels doesn't help either.
}}
{{Rating |rater=ThunderGod Cid
|rating=oppose
|reason=Seconding what Surgo said, for the nastiness of the title many of the spells within fall well short.
}}
{{Rating |rater=Surgo
|rating=oppose
|reason=Some of these spells are completely unjustifiable for "Brutality". Time Stop? Haste? Seriously?! There's a better sphere here on the talk page.
}}== Weird Spell Choices ==

I don't see what some of these spells have to do with brutality. How do you justify ''time stop'' and ''telekinesis'' and ''haste''? [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:What Surgo said, and also - seriously, some of those spell levels are rather wack. ''Iron body'' is in no way suitable for the slot you put it in. Let me help:

<onlyinclude>{{Sphere
|title=Brutality
|types=Fiendish, Elemental, Other
|special=You deal +5 damage (not ability damage or drain) with any spell-like ability, as well as with bludgeoning or slashing weapons. Additionally, you get a +3 competence bonus on Intimidate checks as long as you wield a bludgeoning or slashing weapon.
|level1=[[SRD:Horrid Wilting|Horrid Wilting]]
|level3=[[Elush's Eye-Blasting Explosion (3.5e Spell)|Elush's Eye-Blasting Explosion]]
|level5=[[Erzebet's Soul-Flensing Ligature (3.5e Spell)|Erzebet's Soul-Flensing Ligature]]
|level7=[[SRD:Meteor Swarm|Meteor Swarm]]
|level9=[[Elush's Epiphyseal Erosion (3.5e Spell)|Elush's Epiphyseal Erosion]]
|level11=[[Elush's Elemental Extraction (3.5e Spell)|Elush's Elemental Extraction]]
|level13=[[Norton's Bone-Freezing Explosion (3.5e Spell)|Norton's Bone-Freezing Explosion]]
|level15=[[Elush's Explosive Exsanguination (3.5e Spell)|Elush's Explosive Exsanguination]]
|level17=[[White Incantation (3.5e Spell)|White Incantation]]
|level19=[[Shadows of the Mage-Lords (3.5e Spell)|Shadows of the Mage-Lords]]
}}</onlyinclude>

:This seems much closer to a 'brutality' sphere as per its name. If you wanted a sphere of just combat buffs, name it something more appropriate. - [[User:MisterSinister|MisterSinister]] 22:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Opposed	MisterSinister +, ThunderGod Cid + and Surgo +
Special	You deal +5 damage (not ability damage or drain) with any spell-like ability, as well as with bludgeoning or slashing weapons. Additionally, you get a +3 competence bonus on Intimidate checks as long as you wield a bludgeoning or slashing weapon. +
Spell	Horrid Wilting +, Elush's Eye-Blasting Explosion +, Erzebet's Soul-Flensing Ligature +, Meteor Swarm +, Elush's Epiphyseal Erosion +, Elush's Elemental Extraction +, Norton's Bone-Freezing Explosion +, Elush's Explosive Exsanguination +, White Incantation + and Shadows of the Mage-Lords +
Type	Fiendish +, Elemental + and Other +