https://dnd-wiki.org/w/index.php?title=Canon_talk:Tears_of_Sel%C3%BBne&feed=atom&action=historyCanon talk:Tears of Selûne - Revision history2024-03-29T12:46:17ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://dnd-wiki.org/w/index.php?title=Canon_talk:Tears_of_Sel%C3%BBne&diff=233485&oldid=prevDaranios: Daranios moved page Talk:Tears of Selûne to Canon talk:Tears of Selûne without leaving a redirect2015-02-23T19:29:33Z<p>Daranios moved page <a href="/wiki/Talk:Tears_of_Sel%C3%BBne" title="Talk:Tears of Selûne">Talk:Tears of Selûne</a> to <a href="/wiki/Canon_talk:Tears_of_Sel%C3%BBne" title="Canon talk:Tears of Selûne">Canon talk:Tears of Selûne</a> without leaving a redirect</p>
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</table>StoneGolemBothttps://dnd-wiki.org/w/index.php?title=Canon_talk:Tears_of_Sel%C3%BBne&diff=233479&oldid=prevSings-With-Spirits: /* Date */ new section2012-12-30T16:01:59Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Date: </span> new section</span></p>
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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Spelljammer is canonical for FR ==<br />
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Following the [http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Spelljammer_-_Is_it_considered_canonical%3F&t=20080513013414 discussion] in the [[Forum:Index|Forum]], the consensus seems to be that Spelljammer is canonical in FRCS, including 3.0/3.5 edition.<br />
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References include, but are not limited to:<br />
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* [[Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting]] actually supports the existance of Spelljammer (and Kara-Tur, Maztica and Al-Qadim). Read the section called '''''The Sea of Night''''' on pages 230-231.<br />
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* [[The Elves of Evermeet|Elves of Evermeet]] mentions several spelljamming ships are housed in Evermeet.<br />
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* [http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/2/fr_downloads/tsr9538.zip Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain--Stardock] is an adventure that starts in the tunnels below Waterdeep and then takes the players through a portal to one of the ''Tears of Selune'' called ''Stardock''.<br />
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* [http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/2/fr_downloads/tsr1147.zip Arcane Age Boxed Set: Netheril - Empire of Magic] includes information about the Neteril spelljamming ships and spells to permantly seal crystal spheres and create ships that travel at double spelljamming speed.<br />
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{{User:SkyeNiTessine/Sig1}} 01:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</div>SkyeNiTessine