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::: Blasphemy  is a 7th level spell (Same with its siblings), requiring like 13 levels of Cleric or another class to get. I've never seen it lower than 6th, so that's 11 levels, typically. By the time you can afford a spell like that, you're already around 13th-14th level, so investing another 14 levels in Psion or another psionic class, just so you can get the +6 CL, is pretty pointless. It'd just be simpler for you to keep going in whatever casting class give you Blasphemy, or a prestige class for it. --[[User:Zhenra-Khal|Zhenra-Khal]] ([[User talk:Zhenra-Khal|talk]]) 19:33, 3 September 2017 (MDT)
 
::: Blasphemy  is a 7th level spell (Same with its siblings), requiring like 13 levels of Cleric or another class to get. I've never seen it lower than 6th, so that's 11 levels, typically. By the time you can afford a spell like that, you're already around 13th-14th level, so investing another 14 levels in Psion or another psionic class, just so you can get the +6 CL, is pretty pointless. It'd just be simpler for you to keep going in whatever casting class give you Blasphemy, or a prestige class for it. --[[User:Zhenra-Khal|Zhenra-Khal]] ([[User talk:Zhenra-Khal|talk]]) 19:33, 3 September 2017 (MDT)
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::::I thought that the +CL would by magic-psionics equivalence be +ML as well, but that is apparently totally wrong so I withdraw my objection. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] ([[User talk:Surgo|talk]]) 21:47, 3 September 2017 (MDT)

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Might be OP

It does require two feats, but by embedding two of the caster level ioun stones you get a +6 bonus to caster level. That's pretty crazy.

The problem isn't necessarily this feat, it's the Ioun Master bonuses. But the feat itself is worthless without them. Surgo (talk) 23:02, 2 September 2017 (MDT)

Largely due to that prestige class being broken in the first place, yes.
There is one thing though - +6 Caster Level doesn't mean much of anything unless you have a caster class, and this is a psionic feat. Plus you'd need to be ML14+ to get the Greater benefits, soooo unless you happen to be running a psychic theurge sort of deal, that particular instance of overpower isn't that threatening. --Zhenra-Khal (talk) 23:03, 2 September 2017 (MDT)
Except when you get Practiced Caster (or whatever it is that increases CL up to HD) when combined with, say, Blasphemy or a similar spell. --Ghostwheel (talk) 08:15, 3 September 2017 (MDT)
Blasphemy is a 7th level spell (Same with its siblings), requiring like 13 levels of Cleric or another class to get. I've never seen it lower than 6th, so that's 11 levels, typically. By the time you can afford a spell like that, you're already around 13th-14th level, so investing another 14 levels in Psion or another psionic class, just so you can get the +6 CL, is pretty pointless. It'd just be simpler for you to keep going in whatever casting class give you Blasphemy, or a prestige class for it. --Zhenra-Khal (talk) 19:33, 3 September 2017 (MDT)
I thought that the +CL would by magic-psionics equivalence be +ML as well, but that is apparently totally wrong so I withdraw my objection. Surgo (talk) 21:47, 3 September 2017 (MDT)