Talk:Eldritch Dragon (3.5e Feat)

Recommend changing the name to Eldritch Dragon to be consistent with other feats.

Sure, why not. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 04:22, 3 December 2018 (MST)

Suggestion

Isn't adding damage to the breath weapon and eldritch blast a bit redundant? It would be useful to use one or another just to add a breath effect or an invocation, but damage-wise breath weapon would be better.

If I may say I'd stack levels together to determine the level of both invocations (but not how many each class learn), to determine the acquisition of breath effects, damage reduction/cold iron, scales. Maybe the ability to use warlock invocations on breath weapon or breath effects on eldritch blast (it could be an entirely new feat though). The bluez in the dungeon (talk) 19:33, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

The idea in this case is that if you're multiclassing the two (for whatever reason), you aren't falling behind on your expected damage. Breaths have the advantage of area, but the disadvantage of typing. And blasts have various debuffs to slap on it, but lack in area without augmentation. Presumably with this build you aren't investing in as many shapes or certain breath augments because the other half of your class covers it.

I was mostly concerned about your main gimmick, the blast/breath, but I can give it another look on if any of the other suggested scaling properties are worth it. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 02:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

You know what? Thinking of it, the double scaling of breath and blast damage it's not a problem: it allows flexibility, not more power (yeah, you put the option of using them both as a full-round action but it's fine: 1) it's optional, 2) in some campaigns it would be appropriate). My suggestions could go into one or two different feats.

My concern is another now: both classes scale the invocations of the other: isn't that too much? With just one level of warlock you'd have a 20 levels character (warlock 1/dragonfire adept 19) with all the core features (blast, breath, breath effects and two lists of invocations) of a 20th level warlock and a 19th level DFA. You could have full damage breath weapon with all the breath effects you need and full damage edritch blast with invocations, up to dark, for any debuff you'd need (given that you sacrifice other kinds of invocations for eldritch essence invocation). It would be almost a gestalt character. These two classes are not the strongest in the game, but they would still be very powerful with this feat, a bit too much maybe.

What do you think? Have I read the feature correctly? The bluez in the dungeon (talk) 11:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)