Talk:Lich Paragon (3.5e Racial Paragon Class)

Power

I like this. It makes me happy. However.... Unholy Toughness, bless its corrupt black heart, is very strong (so is the artifact phylactery, but less so). With relatively easy pre-reqs of just being a lich, are you sure you'd want to give delicious delicious hp to the liches like that?

In any case, I know what Evo's gonna become.  :D -- Eiji 19:59, 26 April 2009 (MDT)

This is Surgo, whose computer is currently drying off from a flood in my room. I feel as though Unholy Toughness isn't just strong, but required. A d12 hit die from being undead really is worse than having wizard hit dice and an actual constitution modifier, and even with d12 a level you're really not doing so hot when you don't have a constitution bonus. So, yeah, it's strong. But I think it's better than the alternative, which is having the (relative) hit points of a metaphorical flea. Surgo 22:05, 26 April 2009 (MDT)

exactly what i need

I was already going to have a lich as a MAJOR part of my next campaign. Now I'm going to have is phylactery be an immovable rod located JUST out of reach of the characters.

Also the Alternate Form ability will help with another part of the story where the lich was one of the people they have been getting advice from the whole time.

Alternate Form

I was thinking of creating a generic Paragon Undead class, and I was wondering if I could have permission to use the Alternate Form ability found in this paragon class. The Dire Reverend 05:07, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Ratings

	The Dire Reverend favors this article and rated it 4 of 4!
	The Split Phylactery ability is my favorite part of this class. Unholy Toughness is nice too.

	174.27.17.169 favors this article and rated it 4 of 4!
	This sounds so awesome as a class for a main villain it isn't even funny.

	Eiji-kun likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
	Yay Unholy Toughness! My previous commentary still stands.