Talk:Shadows of the Mage-Lords (3.5e Spell)

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Separate Flavor and Mechanics[edit]

You've got flavor text and mechanics text overlapping in there -- perhaps better to separate them out. Surgo 00:39, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Done and done. - MisterSinister 08:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


Cast by Undead[edit]

You should change "All living creatures in the area (including yourself)" to "All living creatures in the area (including yourself if applicable)" - since this spell could plausibly be cast by a creature which isn't alive. --Quantumboost 18:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Good point - will do. - MisterSinister 19:15, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Gasp[edit]

It's my shadow asgard spell. It looks better as a 9th level spell, I agree. But for me to find it through random page hopping? Some credit would have been nice xD. --Sulacu 17:24, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Sulacu, would it utterly surprise you that it's coincidental? I'm happy to add you as a contributor, but I honest-to-goodness did not steal your idea, or heck, even know about it! - MisterSinister 18:32, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
That must be the coincidence of the century. They're utterly identical :o. The 4d4 negative levels, the 1 greater shadow per 2 levels, the 15 HD/CR cap for creating dread wraiths, the area size, AND the +10 turn resistance? AND the 'remain until destroyed' bit? It's not that big a deal if it's a copy, that's way beyond any level of coincidence I believe in :p. --Sulacu 23:18, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
That's the thing - it IS the coincidence of the century. I honest, swear-to-god, did not copy it. However, to acknowledge this level of coincidence, I'm happy to add you as a contributor. - MisterSinister 09:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Creature generation[edit]

A greater shadow is a CR8, yet you get one for every 2 drained levels. That trade doesn't seem particularly reasonable, or I'm missing something. It's also unclear if the CR 15 dread wraiths also provide you with 7+ greater shadows, or if those levels are excluded. - Tarkisflux Talk 05:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

On average, this would make 5 greater shadows, which is a CR 13 encounter by itself. Given that this is a side effect, I'd say that's not bad. I've also corrected to note that the dread wraiths are an additional effect. - MisterSinister (talk) 21:06, 5 November 2012 (UTC)