Talk:Tabard of Intransigent Ire (3.5e Equipment)

Why such a big price difference?

This is like the other side of the Tabard of Defiant Rage, cool cool... but why is this one so much more expensive? Or would you say the ToDR is vastly underpriced? -- Eiji-kun 20:47, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I would say this is probably overpriced (I tried to use SRD guidelines rather than common sense, IIRC). The biggest differences I'd point out to justify a higher price are that Defiant Rage requires a standard action, forfeits rages, and has a cap, whereas Intransigent Ire functions passively, still lets you benefit from rage, and has no cap, though that doesn't mean it isn't overpriced. The popular thing nowadays seems to be a percentage of CWBL (10-15%, I think?) when the item is level appropriate, and I'd peg this around when you get your third rage. Dunno what that actually comes to in terms of numbers without books in front of me. -- Jota 01:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

The SRD Barbarian gets their third rage at level 8, and that's without using the Extra Rage feat at all (if that's taken, you can have three as early as level 4). Assuming you use the feat on something else, your wealth should be 27,000 gp, and thus 15% of that would come out to 4,050 gp.

That having been said, including miracle as one of the component spells for creation drives up the level at which the item becomes easily available in my opinion. Given the low levels of the other spells, I think removal of miracle would be acceptable and allow much easier creation of this item other than buying it on the market if one wished to do so. - TG Cid 03:05, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Brought down to something I think is appropriate for a 8-10^th level character (when you have enough rage uses that tabard means something before spending a charge). Could be tweaked further, really just ballparked it; lemme know what you think. -- Jota (talk) 19:00, 27 March 2014 (UTC)