Talk:Vigorous Flurry (3.5e Feat)

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Undead and Construct[edit]

What happen to those guys, can they use the feat at all? Also what happen to people immune to fatigue and exhaustion? I imagine the flurry still end but they are not fatigued? --Leziad (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

That should fix some issues. --Sulacu (talk) 23:08, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Infinite attacks![edit]

So bab +11 I can make a vigorous flurry where every full bab attack with a -2 penalty forces a con check that starts at 0 and rises by 2 for every previous check. That is high balance but fine. My problem is that a monk with +11 bab is at least level 11 (using any number of ways to up bab to full). Monks lose the penalty on flurry attacks at level 9. So a full classed monk (because I recognize you can qualify by dipping where it is balanced just fine) need not ever make that con check, which means its flurry does not end because it never failed that check it doesn't have to make.

Maybe reword which attacks force the check or add another limit. May be any attacks beyond what you get from bab or non flurry sources, or maybe just a flat limit to bonus attacks ie no more than con score -10? Or that a vigorous flurry's attacks keep the penalty. Grog toad (talk) 23:35, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

What are you talking about? The penalties of flurry of blows have nothing to do with these Constitution checks. --Sulacu (talk) 00:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
"After every attack, made at full base attack bonus with a -2 penalty, you make a Constitution check, starting at DC 0 and increasing by +2 every time. The vigorous flurry ends upon a failed check."

Looks like it does. Maybe not your intention but it sounds like it implies you only make the check on attacks with a -2 penalty. Maybe you meant every attack after the first that doesn't have an iterative attack penalty or is a bonus attack from another source, but that is not what you wrote. Grog toad (talk) 10:56, 12 April 2015 (UTC)