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==Would this work better?==

Havvy pointed out that there were a lot of subpages here, and it looks like they were added for ease of use for often referenced books. I thought referencing the publication page would cut down on a lot of the work and new pages, with the added side effect of making people who reference stuff fill in the publication pages ;-). So I went and made [[Template:Cite Pub]] to do that. Let me know if you think it works better, or want things on it adjusted, or would rather keep the subpages here instead. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] 18:24, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:If this template works so well all the time, it's great in my opinion! I would keep the other template(s) dealing with citations however, as long as they are used. If someone can take the time to change the pages where the old templates are used, and the gets rid of the old templates, all the better. (Let's please keep all DnDWiki templates until all old DnDWiki articles have been adapted and shifted into other namespace, some links are broken there so that one does not know if they still might be needed.) [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] 19:20, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

::It will as long as the publication page is filled in nicely (there's new idiot proofing code for the publication infobox so this will get properties in the expected format). Keeping the old ones until things have been migrated is fine, I just wanted to set something up that required fewer subpages and also encouraged filling in publication pages. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] 19:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

:::I have encountered a first minor problem: For the [[Publication:Manual of the Planes (3e)]], the book name within the Cite_Pub links to the disambiguation page, not the book's page, like in [[Canon:Demonweb Pits]]. I expect this problem will crop up for all cases with different books having the same name, like ''Monster Manual''. I am not too good with syntax issues. Do you see any possibilty to solve that? Perhaps something could be done by linking the title to "[[Publication:{{{1}}}]]", while still showing the "?Title" from the book's page? [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] 19:42, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

::::Sorry for the delay, missed this. It's already doing the thing you suggested, it's just not carrying the (stuff) for some reason. I'm looking into it. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] 16:36, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

::::Nevermind, I know why it's doing this. Should be fixed by end of day. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] 17:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

::::Fixed now. I was wrong about it doing what you suggested, it was just using page title as the link and needed to pull in the page identifier to make it work. Your suggestion was a good one, but I can't pass that information to the formatting template because it's inside of other stuff. Anyway, should be all set now. Let me know if you don't want the identifier to show up in the page link for whatever reason, I can pull that out without a problem but thought it would be useful for disambig purposes. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] 18:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::Great! I see your point for keeping the identifier, but my feelings from what I had to learn about citation make me want to really only have the book title, not the name of the link. And the publication year will already tell the edition to those who already have some background knowledge. I. e. I think both versions would be allright, but I would prefer dropping the identifier. [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] 10:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::::::Removed. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] 17:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)