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:::Well, sorcerers were already inferior to wizards in essentially every way other than spontaneous casting. Okay, looking back at the actual tables, your variant gives the sorcerer slightly more spells known total than the wizard, so I might have been exaggerating a little, but the wizard's spells known at their highest spell levels (the important levels) compete just fine with the sorcerer's, and the wizard is still better about spell levels and feats. --[[User:Foxwarrior|Foxwarrior]] ([[User talk:Foxwarrior|talk]]) 18:57, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Well, sorcerers were already inferior to wizards in essentially every way other than spontaneous casting. Okay, looking back at the actual tables, your variant gives the sorcerer slightly more spells known total than the wizard, so I might have been exaggerating a little, but the wizard's spells known at their highest spell levels (the important levels) compete just fine with the sorcerer's, and the wizard is still better about spell levels and feats. --[[User:Foxwarrior|Foxwarrior]] ([[User talk:Foxwarrior|talk]]) 18:57, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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:::: So is it basically, "It stays about the same", not because of the variant, but because of how sorcs and wizards are built from the ground up? And would making the minimum 0 (actually putting highest spells known precisely on par with the sorcerer) make it work better? --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] ([[User talk:Ghostwheel|talk]]) 19:43, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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Fishing for thoughts. Does this break the game? Is it a decent change? Does it screw sorcerers over? Is it playable? And for the love of all the gods, can anyone think of a better name? --Ghostwheel (talk) 17:22, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

No. Mana-Based Spellcasting contains this one, and is cooler. Completely. Yes. Prepared Spontaneous Casting? --Foxwarrior (talk) 18:10, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Rereading it, it's definitely not what I'm looking for. I don't see a whole party getting Haste all day long for free, even at level 20. How does this screw over sorcerers, and how badly? --Ghostwheel (talk) 18:41, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Well, sorcerers were already inferior to wizards in essentially every way other than spontaneous casting. Okay, looking back at the actual tables, your variant gives the sorcerer slightly more spells known total than the wizard, so I might have been exaggerating a little, but the wizard's spells known at their highest spell levels (the important levels) compete just fine with the sorcerer's, and the wizard is still better about spell levels and feats. --Foxwarrior (talk) 18:57, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
So is it basically, "It stays about the same", not because of the variant, but because of how sorcs and wizards are built from the ground up? And would making the minimum 0 (actually putting highest spells known precisely on par with the sorcerer) make it work better? --Ghostwheel (talk) 19:43, 8 October 2013 (UTC)