Talk:Illuminamancer (3.5e Class)

Balance

This class isn't balanced against anything at all, is it? During the early levels, it has interesting advantages over the Cleric or Wizard that make it worth having slightly fewer spell per day. However, once they hit level 9, their highest level of spell no longer keeps up with the Cleric or Wizard, and they don't really get much in the way of handy class abilities to compensate. --Foxwarrior 21:34, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Things to think about: does an illuminamancer get to choose each time he uses a class ability/spell if it's positive or negative energy damage? Positive energy heals living beings, which means you can infiniheal from level 1, and at a very high rate. Negative energy heals the undead, which is still good if you pick up exclusively necromantic wizard spells, and allows you to infiniheal your zombies. Dread necromancers can do that too, but not nearly as well. I think that's actually a very, very, very powerful class feature. - Viatos 21:36, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Getting access to both the wizard and cleric list? Definitely wizard-level. As for getting less spells per level, once you're super-prepared, relying primarily on scrolls and using only a one or two spells per encounter, the number of spells you get per level isn't really that big of a deal, especially with the breadth of spells that you can access to via scrolls since you have both the wizard and cleric lists. --Ghostwheel 22:04, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I suspect that you're meant to pick one list, just as I now suspect the author may not be aware of the connotations of positive energy used on living beings. Clarification needed. - Viatos 00:17, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not disputing that this is wizard level; I'm disputing that the illuminamancer keeps up with the Cleric and Wizard at later levels, since it ends up being one spell level behind them. The fact that they get infiniheal at level 1 just makes them even more uneven with the Wizard or Cleric. --Foxwarrior 05:42, April 9, 2010 (UTC)