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Talk:Elf, Variant (3.5e Race)

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Exactly what it say on the tin. --The Zanni 07:52, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I can't really say it deserves LA (because I don't think it does), but I will say that the variability offers a lot of potential for, well not really abuse, but something akin to it. There's just so much versatility (ability scores, skills, weapon proficiences, flavorful ability, favored class) I feel like it kind of makes humans less relevant, and considering they were already one of the better races, I don't know if that's a good thing. Humans will still have their place for the extra feat, and I'm not saying it's bad, I just feel like it's hovering right on the point between balanced and a little too much. -- Jota 18:26, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
They don't get the human bonus feat, and the bonus skill points granted by humans is far more versatile (and stronger on the long run). Remember you can purchase an extra tome feat with your bonus feat. --The Zanni 20:11, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
I know they (the elf variant) don't get the extra feat, I only mentioned that as one of the few reasons humans would still be a viable option if this variant race were allowed. Now if you are talking Tome rules, then this is perfectly balanced, because Tome doesn't have the stupid two-for-one buying of cross-class skills, or multi-classing penalties, and feats are actually worth something. I was talking about a core game, in the context of which I think this could be construed as overpowered (since cross-class skills suck, multi-classing penalties are a bitch, and feats are meh). For Tome games, however, its fine without question. -- Jota 21:30, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
Think of it like this... Dwarf > This. It's pretty much on par with Human, which is a good point to be at. --TK-Squared 22:08, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
You should add the druid spell list for flavourful ability, after all many elves are nature-based. You should also include creature touched (but may only affect the elf). Just a suggestion. --Leziad 02:40, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
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