User:Aarnott/Lego Bin 8

Abusing leadership, craft checks, and aid another

Orc Barbarian 1/Orc Paragon 3/Something 1/Marshal 1

• 16 starting cha +2 cloak of cha (+4 mod)
• 19 starting str +2 gauntlets of ogre strength, +2 orc paragon (+6 mod)
• Small keep as a possession
• Pick Skill focus (diplomacy) before Marshal
  • Then get Leadership and Might Makes Right at level 6

Leadership score:

• Pretend he gets the "Great Renown", "Fairness and Generosity", and "Special Power" score bonuses (+4 total)
• 6 level, +6 str, +4 cha, +2 keep, +4 = 22
• 75 level 1s, 7 level 2s, 4 level 3s, 2 level 4s, 2 level 5s, 1 level 6, level 4 cohort

The cohort (which is more likely to be allowed to be whatever you want):

Kenku Cleric 4

• Pick craft skills exclusively (Alchemy, Armorsmith, Weaponsmith, Wicker Baskets)
• Assume +2 int mod
• Craft Domain (skill focus, +3 untyped)
• Artifice Domain (+4 untyped)
• +2 circumstance from MW crafting tools
• +9 insight from Divine Insight (2nd level spell)
• +3 from each follower (kenku racial) taking 10 on aid another = 91 * 3 = +273
• 7 ranks
• Total craft = +300 (310 on take 10)
• Crafting (something, say alchemist's fire) with DC increased to 310 = 96100 sp per week
• = 9610 gp per week
• = 1372.85 gp per day
• = 57.20 gp per hour
• Over 2 alchemist's fires per hour (actually just under 3).

It gets crazier.

At level 9 - Extra Followers feat (leadership should be 25+ at this point)

• 326 followers
• Kenku cleric has 3 more levels giving +3 to ranks and divine insight.
  • Some magic stuff could probably be bought to get that higher, but who cares for now.
• Extra +696 +6 = +702 to craft checks when aided
• Total craft = +1002 (1012 on take 10)
• With a DC 1010 craft: 1020100 sp per week
• = 102010 gp per week
• = 14572.85 gp per day
• = 607.20 gp per hour
• An alchemist's fire every 2 min.

If levels 7, 8, & 9 were Orc Warlord [1]:

• 978 followers = +2934 craft
• Total craft = +2967 (2977 with take 10)
• With a DC 2977 craft: 8862529 sp per week
• = 886252.9 gp per week
• = 126607.55 gp per day
• = 5275.31 gp per hour
• = 87.92 gp per min
• 4 alchemist's fires every minute

If you are allowed to craft epic alchemy items without the lame feat (or I suppose you could cheat it in with rogue 10), you can improve an alchemist's fire 148 times (if you could afford the one-third of 14,820 gp of materials = 4,940 gp), for a 149d6 grenade that splashes 149 squares (745 feet). Given the HP of rock, you could probably use one of these things to destroy a good portion of a castle. It's over a quarter-mile diameter that will basically be vaporized, after all.

Using GW's masterwork rules (which, incidentally is one of the lame reasons I played with these numbers), you can make a tier 986 masterwork. Of course, the cost would be absurd (approximately 3 digits per 10 tiers ==> 1 followed by 99 0s, which is just under a Googol [2]).

But with that Googol worth of gold, you could have an item that has its weight reduced by 24,650%. So Mithril Mountain Plate with armor spikes normally weighs 235 lbs, instead would weigh -57,810 lbs.

Okay, that is dumb. But this was fun to figure out.

If the main orc character takes 10 rogue levels and gets Legendary Commander, he'd have:

• 9780 followers = +29340 craft
• I'm sure +50 for the Kenku is reasonable at level 18, so total craft = 29400 when taking 10
• With a DC 29400 craft: 864360000 sp per week
• = 86436000 gp per week
• = 12348000 gp per day
• = 514500 gp per hour
• = 8575 gp per min
• = 142.91 gp per sec
• 7 alchemist's fires every second

He'd be able to make a nuclear warhead: 1470d6 alchemist fire over 1470 square splash radius (7350 ft. or 1.39 miles). Or create an 8.35 mile wide sunrod effect that lasts just over a year (367.5 days).

Another fun fact: if you have 15 million followers helping craft, you produce more alchemist fires per second than you have followers.

A Supermount Build Idea (abusing the wording on halfling outrider)

Uses Unearthed Arcana/Prestige Ranger, Unearthed Arcana/Prestige Paladin, Unearthed Arcana/Bloodlines, Unearthed Arcana/Faith Scion, depending on the build

• Halfling outrider stacks druid, paladin, and ranger animal companion levels.
  • So, if a player has both ranger and druid, it should, technically, count for both
  • Prestige rangers stack directly with druid level (not at half-rate).

Build would be:

Druid 6/Prestige Ranger 1/Halfling Outrider 10/Some bloodline 3

• Falls short of +16 BAB (has +15)
• Effective animal companion would have 9 (druid + bloodline) + 4 (ranger + bloodline) + 13 (outrider stacking with druid + bloodline) + 13 (outrider stacking with ranger + bloodline) = 39 druid levels.
• Natural Bond feat gives 42 druid levels
• +20 HD, +20 Natural Armor, +14 Str/Dex
• I don't have the book on me, but I think the Beastmaster PrC could be either traded for a druid level to get another +5 druid levels (only a single bump up though)

Alternatively, we can get some Devoted Tracker all up in here:

Paladin 5/Druid 1/Prestige Ranger 1/Halfling Outrider 10/Some bloodline 3

• +16 BAB
• Effective animal companion would have 4 (druid + bloodline) + 4 (ranger + bloodline) + 13 (outrider stacking with druid + bloodline) + 13 (outrider stacking with ranger + bloodline) = 34 druid levels.
• Natural Bond feat gives 37 druid levels
• Effective special mount level is 8 (paladin + bloodline) + 13 (outrider + bloodline) = 21
• +24 HD, +26 Natural Armor, +16 Str, +12 Dex

Another devoted tracker build that gets cheesier involves UA legendary weapons (DM fiat):

Druid 6/Prestige Ranger 1/Sacred Exorcist 1/Prestige Paladin 2/Halfling Outrider 1/Faith Scion 5/ Bloodline 3

• Casting as a 13th level druid (which is mostly the point) (CL should be 25!)
• Wildshape as an 17th level druid (+ all the relevant abilities!)
• Lay on Hands as a 15th level Paladin (if we care about that)
• Turn Undead as a 17th level Cleric (for DMM cheese)
• Faith Scion doesn't get to count both druid and ranger because it advances animal companion, not advancement by class
• 9 (druid + bloodline) + 4 (ranger + bloodline) + 4 (outrider stacking with druid + bloodline)+ 4 (outrider stacking with ranger + bloodline) + 8 (scion + bloodline) = 29
• + Natural Bond = 32
• Effective special mount level is 5 (paladin + bloodline) + 4 (outrider + bloodline) + 8 (scion + bloodline) = 17
• +20 HD, +22 Natural Armor, +14 Str, +10 Dex
• Requires a legendary weapon that will work for a strongheart halfling (as opposed to the example one for dwarves)

Other stuff that could work

• Unearthed Arcana/Bard Variant, 1 level dip for +4 animal companion levels (inc. bloodline)
• Beastmaster PrC , 1 level dip for +6 animal companion levels (inc. bloodline)
• Lion of Talisid PrC, 1 level dip for +4 animal companion levels (inc. bloodline)
• Abolisher PrC, 1 level dip for +4 animal companion levels (inc. bloodline)
• Gatekeeper Mystagogue, 1 level dip for +4 animal companion levels and byeshk natural weapons (inc. bloodline)
• Planar Shepard, same deal with lots of goodies

Early Entry Abuse

Race (Templates): Illumian

ECL	Class/HD/LA	Base Attack Bonus	Saving Throws			Feats	Class Features	Special	Effective Cleric Level for Spells
			Fort	Ref	Will
1st	Cloistered Cleric 1	+0	+2	+0	+2	Improved Sigil: Krau, Augment Summoning (bonus domain feat), Heighten Spell (flaw), Earth Spell(flaw)	Dragon Below domain, Summoner domain (+2 CL for summon spells)	Krau Sigil (+1 CL up to character level)	1
2nd	Cloistered Cleric 2	+0	+3	+0	+3			Naen Sigil (+1 on Intelligence-based checks), naenkrau (keep spell slots empty for +1 to DCs)	2
3rd	Paragnostic Apostle 1	+0	+3	+0	+5	Spell Focus (Conjuration)	Call of Worlds (summons get fast healing)		3
4th	Master of Shrouds 1	+0	+3	+0	+7		Extra rebuking		3
5th	Master of Shrouds 2	+1	+3	+0	+8		Summon undead (shadow)		4
6th	Master of Shrouds 3	+2	+4	+1	+8	Fiendish Summoning Specialist			5
7th	Master of Shrouds 4	+3	+4	+1	+9		Summon undead (wraith)		6
8th	Master of Shrouds 5	+3	+4	+1	+9		Improved summoning		7
9th	Master of Shrouds 6	+4	+5	+2	+10	TODO	Summon undead (spectre)		8
10th	Master of Shrouds 7	+5	+5	+2	+10				9
11th	Master of Shrouds 8	+6	+5	+2	+11		Summon undead (greater shadow)		10
12th	Master of Shrouds 9	+6	+6	+3	+11	TODO			11
13th	Master of Shrouds 10	+7	+6	+3	+12		Summon undead (dread wraith)		12
14th	Malconvoker 1	+7	+7	+6	+14		Deceptive summons, unrestricted conjuration		12
15th	Malconvoker 2	+8	+7	+6	+15	Enhanced Power Sigils	Planar binding		13
16th	Malconvoker 3	+8	+8	+7	+15	TODO	Skill Focus (Bluff)		14
17th	Malconvoker 4	+9	+8	+7	+16		Deceptive summons (fury)		15
18th	Malconvoker 5	+9	+8	+7	+16	TODO	Fiendish legion		16
19th	??? 1	+9	+8	+7	+16				17
20th	??? 2	+9	+8	+7	+16				18