Difference between revisions of "Talk:Thermalsight (3.5e Creature Ability)"

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It only works on weaker illusions. Things like major image incorporate heat in the illusion, thus this ability would not be able to see through it.--Franken Kesey 07:31, 7 June 2019 (MDT)
 
It only works on weaker illusions. Things like major image incorporate heat in the illusion, thus this ability would not be able to see through it.--Franken Kesey 07:31, 7 June 2019 (MDT)
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:If this is broken for being like blindsight, then blindsight is also broken. Yet, this is '''much''' weaker than blindsight for the following reasons:
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:1) Does not work on Constructs, Ooze and Undead type, and Incorporeal, Ethereal, Air, Cold and Earth subtype creatures. Undead and constructs are commonly encountered.
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:2) This only works against figments and glamors. Blindsight works against all illusions, and some conjurations and evocations.
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:3) Blindsight gives exact location, this only gives general area.
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:4) This is affected by ambient temperatures. Blindsight is not.
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:5) This is vulnerable to gaze attacks. Blindsight is not.
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:6) This does not work against magical darkness. Blindsight does.--Franken Kesey 10:47, 8 June 2019 (MDT)

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Ratings

RatedOppose.png Ghostwheel opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
Gotta agree with what Foxy said on this one.

Other problems apart from being able to automatically detect creatures include being able to see through invisibility automatically, and being able to ignore displacement/mirror image.

RatedOppose.png Foxwarrior opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
It's usually hard to judge this sort of page for balance or anything, but given that it's only used by the Feline and Kesey seems to think it's similar in value to darkvision, so I've decided to judge it based on that idea.

For one part, it's a bit unclear about whether you can see walls with this. Aside from that, not needing spot checks to see (presumably including hidden creatures) makes this more like blindsight, and being immune to most illusions is really more of a mid level thing please.


It only works on weaker illusions. Things like major image incorporate heat in the illusion, thus this ability would not be able to see through it.--Franken Kesey 07:31, 7 June 2019 (MDT)

If this is broken for being like blindsight, then blindsight is also broken. Yet, this is much weaker than blindsight for the following reasons:
1) Does not work on Constructs, Ooze and Undead type, and Incorporeal, Ethereal, Air, Cold and Earth subtype creatures. Undead and constructs are commonly encountered.
2) This only works against figments and glamors. Blindsight works against all illusions, and some conjurations and evocations.
3) Blindsight gives exact location, this only gives general area.
4) This is affected by ambient temperatures. Blindsight is not.
5) This is vulnerable to gaze attacks. Blindsight is not.
6) This does not work against magical darkness. Blindsight does.--Franken Kesey 10:47, 8 June 2019 (MDT)
OpposedGhostwheel + and Foxwarrior +