User talk:Luigifan18:Viewtiful Monarch (3.5e Prestige Class)
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That Progression
Ur-Priest and that Beholder thing use this progression, and are among the cheesiest cheese around because of it. The BAB requirement at least can't be worked around (I think), which fixes the larger half of the problem, but I can't help but suspect that the progression is still bad for other more insidious reasons. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:17, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- Beholder mage I've heard of (yeeesh), but what's an ur-priest? --Luigifan18 (talk) 04:30, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- Complete Divine/Book of Vile Darkness Cleric Atheist with essentially this progression, but you can get into it easily at level 6. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- I honestly had no idea that any other classes had this progression. I came up with it off the top of my head, thinking "hmm, this is basically a wizard with caster level issues, but full spellcasting progression, a decent base attack bonus, and a bunch of special abilities... I'll give it fewer spell slots to balance it out." --Luigifan18 (talk) 04:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- It's not full spellcasting progression; full spellcasting progression gives one spell level every 2 levels. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- Since this is a prestige class, I had little choice but to compress it. It does start pretty late, though, so it gets high-level spells roughly when a wizard does anyways. (And what is its spellcasting progression called?)
- *sigh* I was going somewhere with that, but I seem to have forgotten. Anyways, this isn't like the Viewtiful Shogun where I can actually show you a video of the inspiration. There's pretty much no footage of the final battle in Viewtiful Joe: Double Trouble, much to my chagrin. --Luigifan18 (talk) 04:56, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- It's not full spellcasting progression; full spellcasting progression gives one spell level every 2 levels. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- I honestly had no idea that any other classes had this progression. I came up with it off the top of my head, thinking "hmm, this is basically a wizard with caster level issues, but full spellcasting progression, a decent base attack bonus, and a bunch of special abilities... I'll give it fewer spell slots to balance it out." --Luigifan18 (talk) 04:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- Complete Divine/Book of Vile Darkness Cleric Atheist with essentially this progression, but you can get into it easily at level 6. --Foxwarrior (talk) 04:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- It's generally known as fast progression (though if you're asking for the purpose of the tags, I don't know, full is fine. I'm not apt to mess with the tags. Maybe Other?)
- In an effort to de-cheese the ur-priest I made the False Prophet (3.5e Prestige Class). Did you see what I did to kill the cheese? -- Eiji-kun (talk) 05:49, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- That's only one level different from this class, Eiji. I guess you agree with Luigifan. --Foxwarrior (talk) 05:51, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
