User talk:Luigifan18/Helm of Stacking (3.5e Equipment)

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Attacking Stacking

Oh dear, this is gonna be hard to balance. I'd comment more, but... I actually cannot understand how it's supposed to work. How I think it probably should work is "You can stack any bonuses up to a maximum of +X" where X is how you keep it from going insane because you applied +2 enhancement to Whatever x9999 times.

What exactly is it doing? -- Eiji-kun (talk) 22:00, 28 November 2017 (MST)

Ok, others explained it for me that it is "If you could benefit from BUFF, then you can benefit from BUFF x2... or x3/x4 for the other versions. Which I have to say is the wrong way to go about it since buffs generally are built with the idea that they don't stack and thus some buffs (cough cough Divine Agility cough cough Bite of the Anything) are quite high.

I do not think a +40 Dex is appropriate no matter how great your Greater Helm is, and it is clearly a far cry from x4 Grace for a "mere" +8 Dex. Nevermind if you go dumpster diving for xN bonuses of all different types. This was off the top of my head. It can get much much worse.

Yes, you would be way way better off fixing the maximum bonus you can achieve from any sources. That way even if you dumper dive for a dozen and one different types, or stack all the same type, you know you never are going to exceed 2, 4, 6, whatever number you set it at and then you can adjust prices accordingly because you know the theoretical limit. At the moment, a price (and balance) is impossible because there is no theoretical limit to the bonuses you can find. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 23:34, 28 November 2017 (MST)

Huh? Where did you get it explained to you? Though the explanation you received is pretty much correct.
Also, the current rules already encourage dumpster diving for bonuses of different types, because generally speaking, only bonuses of the same type are prevented from stacking. The purpose of the helm of stacking is to ease up restrictions on stacking, so you can, for instance, combine a temporary buff with an equipment-based one. But not too much, as the stacking rules exist largely to prevent players from endlessly buffing themselves. The greater helm only allows stacks of four for a reason — infinite stacks would just be insane. --Luigifan18 (talk) 11:06, 16 December 2017 (MST)