Talk:Paladin, Tome (3.5e Class)
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I thought the Class Inserter form would have added the (3.5E Class) to the end automatically, but it didn't. That needs fixed. IGTN 08:12, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Moved. Of course, I did the move before I remembered where I had seen 'Tome of Virtue' before. First off, do you not think that it is rude to impose like this, and assume that you can make the Tome of Virtue? (unless you are either Frank or K, in which case, nvm) Secondly, this should not read 'Paladin, Tome of Virtue' either way, it should read 'Paladin, Tome', as with all other Tome classes. Thirdly, if you intend to make a sourcebook like the Tomes, you must at least try and with the sourcebook first, and not leap ahead of yourself and make the mechanical peices first. → Rith (talk) 08:38, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
- I labelled it as "Tome of Virtue" because it's based off what Frank shared of what the team's notes for the Tome of Virtue was going to be before they had to abandon the project. If you want to change it to "IGTN Variant", go ahead. http://www.tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=49996&start=0 is the thread for the discussion where all of this is. The notes are in Frank's first post on the page. Other important posts are Kaelik: "The entire point is to claim ownership of the Tome series in such a way that we the community have a total rewrite of 3.5 in Tome form" (near the bottom) and Frank in the last post on the page. IGTN 05:17, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
Beyond Wizard?
I'd have an arguement that this class is strong even by wizard standards, and I base that on the fact that the class is, in essence, Paladin/Cleric gestalt. Yes, it's not the full cleric list, but enough of the big spells were it doesn't matter, and enough times per day to make a sorcerer proud. There's another 9th level casting "paladin" class in Complete Divine, but makes up for it in that it's fairly featureless (nothing to write home about anyway) and the casting is limited to 1 spell per level known, 3/day base, and Medium BAB.
Anyway, in calling it wizard, I'd have to compare it to the wizard or similar. And it has the power of 9th level casting, and the spells per day of a good caster, so it's already at least, sorcerer level, arguably low-sorcerer. Then, slap on full BAB, good HD, no ASF, and a shitload of really nice class features* and it just climbs and climbs. I feel the class has fallen victim to power creep. (*On a positive note, I like the class features, it's just too much with the whole everything else and casting. Honestly the paladin strikes me as if it is less of a caster and needs to employ more class features like this. Closest so far was the 'mundane but holy' maneuvers of the crusader.)
Discuss. -- Eiji Hyrule 00:07, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
