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::: Yeah, this race needs some tweaking/tinkering. The concepts within it need to all work together properly, and they currently don't. A big boost with a dump stat doesn't work. A regular boost and a penalty in an area you care about for the intended target characters does work. I'm not really sure what to say to do to it other than "make the bonuses and penalties appropriate". So, let's just go with that for now until actual mechanics discussion goes further. --[[User:Ganteka Future|Ganteka Future]] 04:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC) | ::: Yeah, this race needs some tweaking/tinkering. The concepts within it need to all work together properly, and they currently don't. A big boost with a dump stat doesn't work. A regular boost and a penalty in an area you care about for the intended target characters does work. I'm not really sure what to say to do to it other than "make the bonuses and penalties appropriate". So, let's just go with that for now until actual mechanics discussion goes further. --[[User:Ganteka Future|Ganteka Future]] 04:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
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| + | ::::Yes, LA 0. Considering that any class that cares about having a high Int score but doesn't care about a low Str score will actually treat large size as a ''very'' massive penalty. Also, yes, it becomes absurd when a character is allowed to completely ignore a particular stat with only a single feat, as with Spiritual Weapon. A more reasonable comparison would be 'large creature based around Dex with Weapon Finesse', at which point there needs to be another source for boosting damage, which is most often found in Sneak Attack. Any class that cares about Sneak Attack, will more often than not, care about hide, in which case, Large size is once again a massive penalty. Also, with -4 Str, the race requires a significant amount of point buy being sunk into Str just in order to allow the character to '''carry a greatsword''' or '''wear armor''', and that alone should drive any sane person trying to honestly play the game away from mixing this race with a melee class. I have played this race myself in three games, and one of my players is using it in one of my games. Believe me, as strange as it may sound, the race is not unbalanced. Thank you for the formatting update, by the way, Ganteka. → [[User:Rithaniel|<span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:50px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:50px">Rith</span>]]<sup> [[User talk:Rithaniel|<span style=color:#A30506; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:50px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:50px">(talk)</span>]]</sup> 10:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
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LA 0?
What's a Large creature with a +4 anything doing with LA 0? This doesn't look LA 0. -- Eiji-kun 13:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Isn't Large a weakness for a creature with a -4 Strength penalty? --Foxwarrior 19:24, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Like you can't make a large creature based around dex and the like, especially when you get into things like Spiritual Weapon. Just the reach is worth the LA, but... I already said that long ago. --Ghostwheel 20:01, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, this race needs some tweaking/tinkering. The concepts within it need to all work together properly, and they currently don't. A big boost with a dump stat doesn't work. A regular boost and a penalty in an area you care about for the intended target characters does work. I'm not really sure what to say to do to it other than "make the bonuses and penalties appropriate". So, let's just go with that for now until actual mechanics discussion goes further. --Ganteka Future 04:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, LA 0. Considering that any class that cares about having a high Int score but doesn't care about a low Str score will actually treat large size as a very massive penalty. Also, yes, it becomes absurd when a character is allowed to completely ignore a particular stat with only a single feat, as with Spiritual Weapon. A more reasonable comparison would be 'large creature based around Dex with Weapon Finesse', at which point there needs to be another source for boosting damage, which is most often found in Sneak Attack. Any class that cares about Sneak Attack, will more often than not, care about hide, in which case, Large size is once again a massive penalty. Also, with -4 Str, the race requires a significant amount of point buy being sunk into Str just in order to allow the character to carry a greatsword or wear armor, and that alone should drive any sane person trying to honestly play the game away from mixing this race with a melee class. I have played this race myself in three games, and one of my players is using it in one of my games. Believe me, as strange as it may sound, the race is not unbalanced. Thank you for the formatting update, by the way, Ganteka. → Rith (talk) 10:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
