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::::: Much of what you said is honestly irrelevant--different builds and stats required don't invalidate my argument--or if they do, I fail to understand how they invalidate it, so you'll need to explain why they do.
::::: That said, 4e tried to remove penalties, and there according to some prominent theory-crafters that I used to follow, there you are affected even more by that -1 than in 3.5 where you could take a penalty to the stat, which seems counterintuitive to me, but there you have it... --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] ([[User talk:Ghostwheel|talk]]) 11:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::I'll admit to TL;DR on this conversation. But I would like to briefly note the observation that Quey and Surgo gave non-positive reviews on bases which contradict one another: Quey is unhappy with the effort to balance all races in all roles, whereas Surgo feels that some races do indeed remain better in one role than in another. Maybe if those specializations that Surgo sees are brought to light, they will address Quey's concerns. --[[User:DanielDraco|DanielDraco]] ([[User talk:DanielDraco|talk]])
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