Talk:Undetectable Presence (3.5e Spell)

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RatedDislike.png Eiji-kun dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4.
Right now, this appears to be one-half of Mind Blank. Not cool.

Spell level?

Though woefully unfinished, the one line of description for this spell suggests it is much more potent than nondetection. If that is the case, this should definitely not remain at 2nd level under any circumstance. --Sulacu (talk) 13:36, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I have to agree. A 3rd-level spell that defeats all forms of divination? What? A 3rd-level spell being able to overcome a 4th- or even 5th-level spell is allowable in my mind (assuming that the spell has some limitations that make sure it's not going to do so very often; being able to reliably overcome, say, a 5th-level spell with a 3rd-level spell is simply ridiculous, unless that 3rd-level spell is dispel magic or specifically designed to deal with the 5th-level spell in question (and only that specific 5th-level spell)). Beyond that, you enter the land of insanity. A 3rd-level spell should not be able to just flat-out nullify something of 6th level or higher! Spells are categorized into levels for a reason, and that reason is that the higher-level spells are meant to be more powerful.
Basically, balance in D&D is built around the idea that going on adventures makes you grow more powerful; someone who's been adventuring for a while is going to be just plain inherently better than someone who doesn't do much of anything. And along that vein, you aren't allowed to use the really powerful spells until you've done a lot of adventuring. If a 17th-level wizard wants to watch a 5th-level cleric's every single move, there really isn't supposed to be a bloody thing the low-level cleric can do about it, because that's simply the way the world of D&D works. --Luigifan18 (talk) 00:18, 18 December 2015 (UTC)