User talk:Rithaniel/Denizen of Chaos (3.5e Race)

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	Fluffykittens opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
	Same reason the other denizen races are bad.

	Surgo opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
	As all the "Denizen of X", it's both unusable and uninteresting. If it was one or the other it could probably be okay, as there's plenty of stuff that falls into one of those camps, but with both it's completely useless.

	Eiji-kun opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
	Again one of the least offensive ones, and as the others the Names area is a lolcow. But what bugs me is there's an interesting thing (no skin! Look ma, I'm cosplaying Attack on Titan!) but no word on what that does for them, why they are that way, or anything. How is lack of skin chaotic? How does it help them survive? How does anything?

Ganteka Future opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.

Ugh. Short version: This is lackluster and lopsided. I've got a bad feeling about these denizen races. First off, they aren't particularly inspiring for character creation. Anyways, I'll focus on the shortcomings here. The enormous boost to strength overshadows basically any other race as a character out of the box. Otherwise, it's monumentally boring in mechanics with nothing fun. Trying to play an avatar of unpredictability and chaos just sounds like a pain in the ass as written here. Unpredictability would be fine if it was the methods rather than the outcome. Never being able to rely on your gigantic musclebeast pal would be annoying for everyone else at the table, especially if his character is supposed to just walk away in the middle of the quest, according to the flavor text. Ugh. As an aside, the +d5" height modifier for females amuses me.

you serious

this race have a level ajustment of +0 it should be like +4 - +7

same with all your Denizen races that you made. --Kojopo 00:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

It has Racial HD. As intended, it is meant to be playable as a 3rd level character. --Ganteka Future 00:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

ok you start lvl 3 but you gave him +10 str or dex etc for others with no level ajustment but instead you start at lvl 3 were the rest of your party are lvl 1 ???!! --Kojopo 00:46, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think you need to re-read the section on ECL Kopojo. If you're playing an ECL 3 race then that's supposed to make you equivalent to a 3rd level character. It's just a less retarded way of making races that have to start at a higher level. There's no "rest of party at level 1" here unless your DM is just mean.

And since you don't get any class features for your 3 levels of "Denizen" beyond some saves, skills, and a bunch of Str, I'm not really sure there's a problem. You're 3 levels behind everyone else in your group (if they took ECL 1 races anyway), without being a liability to them for not having hit points. - TarkisFlux 01:19, August 13, 2010 (UTC)