Talk:Kiss of Vanti (5e Spell)

Ratings

	Vaegrim is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
	I'm nervous about Temp HP from a cantrip; but the limitations (self only, about as much as Heroism) keep it relatively under control. My biggest complaint is the upcasting messing with range as well as damage.

	TK-Squared likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
	With the change to dealing a d4 in damage die, and still keeping the proficiency bonus (which scales like good cantrips) for the temp hit points, I can say that I enjoy this.

On Balance

At first glance the spell seems to be overpowered for a cantrip. Both damaging an enemy and giving temporary hit points to the caster. However...

• The damage is low (d6)
• Temporary Hit Points do not stack. So you cannot build up a huge reserve of temporary hit points.

--Rlyehable (talk) 16:09, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Responses to Ratings

To Vaegrim — Thank you for your response and rating. Initially, I had it increase further at higher levels. I removed that. I considered starting with reach, but thought that it was too much for a cantrip at 1st level. This was the compromise. Compare it to Chill Touch that does more damage at a 120 ft. range. Again, thank you for taking the time to look at the spell. --Rlyehable (talk) 18:23, 23 April 2019 (MDT)

I have updated the spell to simplify and reduce damage. --Rlyehable (talk) 09:28, 14 June 2019 (MDT)