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I just want to make sure that you know that this spell is essentially a touch attack vs dealing 20% of a creature's max health as a level 2 spell. Bleedout does a huge amount of damage and isn't anywhere near that high. --[[User:Undead Knave|Undead_Knave]] ([[User talk:Undead Knave|talk]]) 07:19, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be a touch attack, maybe I should specify it as the text says "spirit". I'm not sure if you are saying that it does a huge amount of damage or not. To a fighter with 21 hp at 2nd level it does 4 damage, which is not a lot of damage (bleedout happens no more than once per round), given the conditions that needs to happen (reflective surface big enough, target adjacent or near it). If, instead, you think it's too low damage for a 2nd level spell I will think of something.--[[User:The bluez in the dungeon|The bluez in the dungeon]] ([[User talk:The bluez in the dungeon|talk]]) 07:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)