Talk:Full Power Super Saiyan (3.5e Feat)

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Is it really? -- Eiji-kun (talk) 10:59, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

You don't think so? All it does is reduce the cost of the first and weakest Super Saiyan transformation. That doesn't seem fighter level, it just saves some ki. The-Marksman (talk) 19:28, 17 November 2017 (MST)

Unobtainable?

As written, it seems like this feat is unobtainable, as the ki cost of staying a Super Saiyan for the requisite week would be astronomical, far outstripping that supplied by the Saiyan Warrior class or the Saiyan race. Transforming costs 10 ki, and there's a 5 ki per minute upkeep.

Here's the breakdown for the week:

1st Day:

Super Saiyan transformation: 10 ki

Upkeep for rest of day (1439 minutes): 7195 ki

Total ki cost for day: 7205

2nd Day:

Upkeep for day: (1440 minutes): 7200 ki

3rd Day:

Upkeep for day: (1440 minutes): 7200 ki

4th Day:

Upkeep for day: (1440 minutes): 7200 ki

5th Day:

Upkeep for day: (1440 minutes): 7200 ki

6th Day:

Upkeep for day: (1440 minutes): 7200 ki

7th Day:

Upkeep for day: (1440 minutes): 7200 ki

TOTAL KI FOR WEEK OF SUPER SAIYAN: 50,405 KI

Have I done my math wrong? Is there something I've missed?

- Tyenkrovy (talk) 19:04, 31 January 2018 (MST)

Nevermind, I'm dumb. I didn't think of using the Improved Ki Charging invocation to keep one's ki pool up. So, it's technically doable, just annoying. You'd either have to sleep like Da Vinci or have a fairly high ki pool so you could get at least a half-way decent amount of uninterrupted sleep. - Tyenkrovy (talk) 19:19, 31 January 2018 (MST)

You're right actually, thanks for pointing this out. The intention was that it should take all of your ki pool per day to stay transformed. I dont think I ever actually did the math. Thanks for pointing that out. A level 11 Saiyan Warrior has a base ki pool of 135 and can get extra for high wisdom, if you assume 14 wisdom for an average character thats 11 ki extra per day giving 146 per day available. So if I change the ratio to ki per hour instead of ki per minute of transformation that would be 10 ki for the first hour and then 5 ki for each hour there after which would look like 10 for first hour and then 23 * 5 = 115 + the original 10 = 125 ki per day to stay in that form. Which is what the original intention was. Thanks for picking up on that. I'll make the updates to the actual class in the next 48 hrs since Im at work atm. The-Marksman (talk) 12:15, 3 February 2018 (MST)

Changed the ki cost on the main class page to make Super Saiyan 1&2 have hourly costs. Thanks again for pointing that out. The-Marksman (talk) 11:58, 5 February 2018 (MST)