# Talk:Dialga (3.5e Monster)

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## Formatting Problems[edit]

What formatting problems are you talking about exactly? I'm not seeing the problem. - Tarkisflux ^{Talk} 22:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

- They fixed themselves... ^_^; I don't have any idea what happened, but the statistics block didn't properly arrange itself - the code failed somehow, and it was all a clustered mess. Anyways, there isn't any problem now. (Fun fact; I came up with the Time Snap move myself. You can find it at the Create-A-Pokémon Kitchen on Smogon or Pokémon Online. Basically, it maximizes all stats, but takes two turns to perform
*and*costs Dialga 25% of its max HP to use, as if it was making a Substitute, which can make it risky to perform.) --Luigifan18 (talk) 23:38, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

## Colossal?[edit]

Dialga's Pokedex stats say he's 17 feet tall -- and looking at the picture, he can't be more than like 50% longer than he is tall. That puts him firmly in the Huge (long) size category, doesn't it? --DanielDraco (talk) 00:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

- I just put it in the same size category as Giratina and called it a day. Can Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem be called Gargantuan? --Luigifan18 (talk) 02:52, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

- For a size (long), it's usually (roughly) from head to tail rather than shoulder height, give or take depending on how much you would consider it to be the center of mass. I dunno if that helps any, but yeah. If you do Huge (long) remember it has the reach of Large. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 03:04, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

- Well, the Pokedex gives height. But by looking at the pictures you can guesstimate length from there. Giratina should also be Huge -- he's 14' tall, a bit less than twice as long as he is tall, which means he's a bit under 28'. As bipeds with height ranging between 9 and 12 feet, the Black and White mascot trio should all just be Large. --DanielDraco (talk) 04:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

- Okay... so, how would converting Dialga from Colossal to Huge affect its stats? I want to make sure that I don't miss anything. I'm also building Palkia ATM and want it to be equivalent to Dialga for the most part. --Luigifan18 (talk) 15:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

- There's a handy chart that summarizes size effects. His penalty to attack and AC would be mitigated by 6, his grapple bonus would be reduced by 8, and his space/reach would be reduced to 15/10. --DanielDraco (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

- It's the Strength, Constitution, and Dexterity I'm more worried about... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luigifan18 (talk • contribs) at

- Well there are rules for size changes from advancement, and you can use those as guidelines. But since this is a creature in its base form, you can set those wherever you please, because the racial bonuses can be any (even) number you want. Although with the advancements at 4, 8, etc. HD, it works out that at 20 HD the sum of all six must be even. It's a largely inconsequential restriction, but it's literally your only restriction on putting the ability scores where you want. --DanielDraco (talk) 22:52, 22 October 2012 (UTC)