Talk:Fragile Lifeforce (3.5e Flaw)

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Ratings[edit]

RatedNeutral.png Leziad is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
The flaws isn't bad, but damn that second paragraph is maybe a bit too harsh for my liking.
RatedLike.png Eiji-kun likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
The Energy Vulnerability (negative) effectively. Looks solid, and the negative level bane is killer. Perhaps literally.

One minor concern: Death Ward is effective immunity to the flaw, and a good idea anyway (in spell or enhancement form). You may want to address it. Maybe "immunity only works 50% of the time" or "immunity instead becomes +8 to saves against it"? Address that, and the Like stays.

Otherwise, it works. Mine the red link you have (at time of rating).

RatedLike.png Surgo likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
Now that the extra benefit is gone, it's good!


It's a flaw because the downside outweighs the upside, by a lot, and intentionally so; for one thing, you get completely slaughtered by undead. As a trait, this would be a complete trap option; as a flaw, one bonus feat doesn't quite make up for being a friggin' delicacy (and easy prey to boot) to undead creatures all by itself. --Luigifan18 (talk) 01:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

The downside of flaws are supposed to outweigh the upside (the bonus feat) -- that's the whole point of flaws! Surgo (talk) 02:27, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't think it's ever weighed out like that in practice. But I'm also not convinced that the downside outweighs the upside (not including the bonus feat); weakness to undead only pops up when getting into close combat with undead, benefits from positive energy pops up whenever you've got a positive energy guy on your team. --Foxwarrior (talk) 03:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
I actually like this, but I agree the extra benefit beyond a bonus feat is completely not required. Negative energy is uncommon, but I wouldn't call it rare, and I would compare it akin to the Energy Vulnerability flaw as far as "try not to get his by a fireball/harm spell/other element".
Drop the special, leave the bonus feat, and you're golden. -- Eiji-kun (talk) 06:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Now that the benefit is gone, it's good! But I think this would make a great trait too, with that old benefit. (this is Surgo from a different computer)

Trait[edit]

Isn't that a trait? That does not look like a flaw at all. --Leziad (talk) 16:58, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I forgot to add the "bonus feat" benefit. I thought the template would do it for me. --Luigifan18 (talk) 17:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
We should probably edit it to do that, since it is the defining difference between a flaw and a trait. --DanielDraco (talk) 19:09, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
LikedEiji-kun + and Surgo +
NeutralLeziad +