User talk:TheDarkWad/Arcane Librarian

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Ratings[edit]

RatedOppose.png Spanambula opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
Aside from all the other nonsense about this class (50% spell failure chance for applying a +2 metamagic effect? Wow, sign me up.),

suddenly oh hey I can infinitely re-use 9th level spell scrolls at level 20. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.

RatedOppose.png Eiji-kun opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
At low levels you suffer, barely able to afford the scrolls which may up your spells per day.

At high levels, you have infinite spells per day of your entire spellbook, able to afford it both by virtue of being rich and having an insane 10% of the market cost.

No, I cannot approve.

(EDIT: And suddenly I found the capstone. Holy shit.)

RatedOppose.png Franken Kesey opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4.
Really odd rules, bad grammar and dependency on scrolls are already bad. Then the careful caster feature is an anti-feature doing more harm than good.
RatedDislike.png Tarkisflux dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4.
In combat, this is a wizard who spends gold like mad since they only have scrolls and no per day slots to use for free. They don't use their free spells, because 1 minute casting times are ridiculous. Out of combat, this is a wizard who casts free spells every minute from their pile of free lower level scrolls. They are a utility / buff machine of immense proportions, and I don't think they hit their balance goal at all.
RatedDislike.png Hammerhead dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4.
Okay, so, supposing we assume that the Wizard is naturally strong and this class actually needs to be made in order for Wizards to be High (In my experience, you have to carefully optimize in order for a Wizard to be what the Very High balance point attests to be, but that's a different rant), do you succeed?

Well, at first, second, and third level, you are either being handed scrolls, stealing scrolls, or you are not really casting that many spells, which, with this BAB and HD, means you are only slightly better than a commoner. Sure, once you get some gold, you can have all the copies of particular spell as you want, and a commoner can't do that, but that eats up all your gold, when you could just save up all your gold and buy a staff or wand of it instead.

In fact, this flaw permeates through every level of the class, because you have finite funds, finite xp, and extended periods of time before you are ready to cast any spell (you have to scribe the scroll). Also, why don't you get Scribe Scroll as a bonus feat?

You have some interesting ideas, though I also dislike that, while metamagic is allowed on a scroll, which is cool, it's punished with an entirely wasted turn at very noticeable rates.

Copy scroll is another interesting idea, granting an unlimited supply of spells which you might have outgrown, but is also unusable due to extended casting times and, again, gp restrictions.

Really, I want to like the class, but does it lower the strength of the wizard while maintaining playability? No.

RatedDislike.png Ghostwheel dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4.
I'm not really digging this class. Not really seeing the flavor (what does it *do*? why does it adventure? how does it kill enemies, as D&D is a gamist combat-centric game?), casting wizard/sorc spells doesn't seem High-level to me (this might be unquantifiable, since it relies completely on what the DM hands out, but if not then it's definitely on the low end of VH), and crafting in general is bork in D&D and would need to be changed before I could get behind any class that makes use of it.


Brainstorming[edit]

I need some ideas for some good flavor abilities for this class because, as it is now, its quite bland. Any ideas? --TheDarkWad (talk) 05:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't think you need more flavor abilities. Just a few paragraphs explaining who/what/how the Librarian works would flesh it out and make readers excited about it. I have a mental image of a pissed-off librarian casting Silence on a Bard. I mean, it's a librarian. You can go anywhere with that. -Hammerhead.